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listen, cutting all the funding to pbs would not fund the federal government for one hour. that's how small a percentage that is, federal funding for public broadcasting. so swing voters know this isn't serious. they know they aren't hearing serious proposals. >> i want to play for everybody those people who are for president obama, their reaktss after this disappointing show on wednesday. >> i think he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know quite what was going on as far as, you know, maybe he's dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> looking for easy excuses for the president there, but for those undecideds around the country, those looking for passion from a candidate, didn't mitt romney display more passion about wanting to get hired for a job? >> yeah. there's no doubt that he had a better night, and everyone has conceded that, including the president's supporters. and i think when you look, the biggest thing to me was the president's closing st
listen, cutting all the funding to pbs would not fund the federal government for one hour. that's how small a percentage that is, federal funding for public broadcasting. so swing voters know this isn't serious. they know they aren't hearing serious proposals. >> i want to play for everybody those people who are for president obama, their reaktss after this disappointing show on wednesday. >> i think he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put...
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the syrian government blames the rebels, but activists say syrian troops planted those bombs. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ introducing the completely reimagined nissan altima. it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. ln cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> it's the final countdown and we know mitt romney has been practicie inine ining zingers f debate. he doesn't want a good line to fall flat or come off as too aggressive. well, neither of those was the problem when lloyd benson delivered this classic line against dan quyale in the debate of 1988. >> i served with jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> so, historically, have thes
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governing? >> there's certainly similari similariti similarities. when you're president of the united states, you need to do persuading. there are certain skill sets in common. one of the big differences when you campaign, you can be pretty vague and you can hedge. when you're governing, you have to make choices, and you've got to make decisions that have real policy implications. that's the big difference. >> can you name people who ran bad campaigns and were good presidents, and then people who ran good campaigns. >> i suspect the example of someone running a good campaign but not good as president might be lyndon johnson in '64. he ran a very powerful campaign and won 62%, 63% of the vote but didn't govern effectively. >> you know, john, i think it was sydney bloomentha hal who described it, but the process is eternal. it's endless. i kind of wonder when we talk about the connection between campaign skills and governing skills, if came paining is permanent, it's political too. you understand
governing? >> there's certainly similari similariti similarities. when you're president of the united states, you need to do persuading. there are certain skill sets in common. one of the big differences when you campaign, you can be pretty vague and you can hedge. when you're governing, you have to make choices, and you've got to make decisions that have real policy implications. that's the big difference. >> can you name people who ran bad campaigns and were good presidents, and...
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in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is not what a truly transcendent leader does it is petty, it's small minded, divisive politics and i have to think this is the kind of small-minded world view that is going to keep obama from being considered a great leader. >> where does he do that? >> where does he do what? >> where does he pit two groups against each other? >> his entire economic philosophy and re-election effort, pitting wealthy america against poor america and in this video, if you listen to all 40 minutes, he talks about the federal government essentially not kbarg black america, whi
in 2007, it was black america against a white government. and knew that he essentially is the government, he is taking that same kind of tactic and he is pitting poor america against wealthy america. the problem with this is that there are actually aggrieved groups, legitimate arguments to be made that the government has neg lengtd the concerns of black america, that our economy has not sufficiently addressed poverty, but you don't put agrieved groups and pit them against one another. that is...
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and likewise those who are reliant on government are not as attracted to slimming down the size of government. it is not elegantly stated. i'm speaking off-the-cuff in response to a question and i'm sure i could state it more clearly than i did in a setting like that. i'm sure i'll point that out as time goes on. >> joining me now msnbc's alex wagner and chris hayes. the first round of this, he went the rush limbaugh route and explained the comments. he said this is such a golden opportunity. this could be the opportunity for the campaign to take the gloves off and explain conservatism. tonight he says, well that comment i was completely wrong. >> yeah, you know, lawrence the word that has popped into my head in the course of the last 4 hours was labotomy. that is the ome way they are going to believe in the things that he is saying or he has had one. which is the explanation for this pivot. i think what struck me last night was there was bt thn't th attempt to defend this positions to his tax plans to this position on education funding to any number of thing that is he has run on, he white b
and likewise those who are reliant on government are not as attracted to slimming down the size of government. it is not elegantly stated. i'm speaking off-the-cuff in response to a question and i'm sure i could state it more clearly than i did in a setting like that. i'm sure i'll point that out as time goes on. >> joining me now msnbc's alex wagner and chris hayes. the first round of this, he went the rush limbaugh route and explained the comments. he said this is such a golden...
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>> we'll have to create more jobs, have less debt and shrink the size of government. >> misconceptions about you? >> you get to ask the questions you want and i get to give the answers i want. >> i hope there's a moment like that tomorrow night. not going to be easy for jim lehrer. even if romney won't answer for them, it needs to be spelled out loud and clear to the american people who have been lied to. mitt romney has not been straight with americans on where he stands and where he wants to take the country and there's no better platform than for the president to take him to the house. how can you expect him to be straight with you as president when he can't even run his own campaign? get your cell phones out. tonight's question, will mitt romney continue his campaign of lies at tomorrow's debate? text a for yes or b or no. you can always go to our blog. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me is robert gibbs, senior obama campaign adviser. great to have you with us tonight. there's so much meat on the bones here. we have laid out all of the distortions and the
>> we'll have to create more jobs, have less debt and shrink the size of government. >> misconceptions about you? >> you get to ask the questions you want and i get to give the answers i want. >> i hope there's a moment like that tomorrow night. not going to be easy for jim lehrer. even if romney won't answer for them, it needs to be spelled out loud and clear to the american people who have been lied to. mitt romney has not been straight with americans on where he...
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how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of making pbs a political target and not understanding the value the american people place in public broadcasting. how do americans generally view public broadcasting and its funding? >> people are generally very favorable of it. pbs did a study last year where 69% of people were in favor of keeping the public broadcasting's funding, and that was across party lines, even conservatives favored keeping it to the tune of i think 53%. >> hmm. >> so it's something people like, and the thing is, it's such a small part of the federal budget. it's less than 0.1%. see if i made $40,000 a year that would be about 56 cents out of my annual budget, would go to public broadcasting. >> that's putting it in perspective. also pointing out, federal funding for public broadcasting has been cut 13% just in the past two years. have we felt an impact from
how much the government chips in? >> it fluctuates year to year. 10% to 15%. in 2011, 12% funneled stlu came from the government subsidy. >> definite lay sizable clunk there. pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of making pbs a political target and not understanding the value the american people place in public broadcasting. how do americans generally view public broadcasting and its funding? >> people are generally very favorable of it. pbs did a study last...
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somebody's got to carry the burden of keeping this government running, of paying veteran benefits, of making sure medicare is secure, of protecting social security. i mean, mitt romney is devoid of specifics. and that's the problem with the mitt romney plan. >> you know, i think the problem with your analysis of romney's campaign is that you're using obama's spin points. we are going to cut veteran benefits, we are going to decimate social security, all of which is utter nonsense. the bowles simpson, obama's commission, i don't mean to get wonky here, chris, said they were going to lower the upper rates on americans far more than before. and by the way, governor romney said that you could look at the bowles simpson as a good starting point and make changes to it. and that laid out a great range of options, all of which are available. and finally, governor, governor romney said he wants to work with congress, including democrats. he's not going to say my way or the highway, which is what obama did. he's going to sit down and say, these are my ideas, what do you think, how can we put th
somebody's got to carry the burden of keeping this government running, of paying veteran benefits, of making sure medicare is secure, of protecting social security. i mean, mitt romney is devoid of specifics. and that's the problem with the mitt romney plan. >> you know, i think the problem with your analysis of romney's campaign is that you're using obama's spin points. we are going to cut veteran benefits, we are going to decimate social security, all of which is utter nonsense. the...
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the huge monthly jobs number from the government. the expectation is 113,000 jobs created for the month. that is going to be key. last month came in at 96,000. so this is a key number. it is the ultimate number before the election. so people will be watching this very closely and also watching the unemployment rate. we'll see what happens tomorrow. this morning the futures are higher. just opening now with the dow up 40 points. hard to say if the debate had any impact on that last night. again, we've been looking at the numbers up as much as 60 points. up 40 for the dow. and i'll send it back to you. >> becky quick, thank you very much. our colorado close-up. now one of the truest battlegrounds in the country. tom brokaw is going to join me f. >>> today's deep dive while i'm out in colorado. belt weather county. the landscape has shifted big time since george w. bush won the state by nine points in 2000 and by five in 2004. john kerry pulled plans for tv ads a month before the election when it was clear the state was out of reach. co
the huge monthly jobs number from the government. the expectation is 113,000 jobs created for the month. that is going to be key. last month came in at 96,000. so this is a key number. it is the ultimate number before the election. so people will be watching this very closely and also watching the unemployment rate. we'll see what happens tomorrow. this morning the futures are higher. just opening now with the dow up 40 points. hard to say if the debate had any impact on that last night. again,...
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. >> the government stepping in to bailout chrysler and gm? >> i think it depends on who you ask. >> it was, do we save chrysler and gm, what do you do? >> again, this is a false choice. >> so you would -- >> it needs to be done under the umbrella of the free enterprise system. >> as we sit here today, was that a good vote or a bad vote? >> i personally would have had trouble with stripping these hardworking -- >> that's mandel running against sherrod brown. it's almost painful to see him trying to duck around answers, ryan. >> his entire campaign has been difficult to watch. it's been completely disastrous. the republican expected to pick this seat up. instead, he's getting beat pretty handedly. it's hard for him to grapple with the fact that this intervention with the auto industry actually helped and that's what is helping the president there. i do think that voters do generally understand that it's businessmen like mitt romney who are the kinds of people who led this offshoring over the last 20 to 30 years when private equity buys the fact
. >> the government stepping in to bailout chrysler and gm? >> i think it depends on who you ask. >> it was, do we save chrysler and gm, what do you do? >> again, this is a false choice. >> so you would -- >> it needs to be done under the umbrella of the free enterprise system. >> as we sit here today, was that a good vote or a bad vote? >> i personally would have had trouble with stripping these hardworking -- >> that's mandel running...
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i saw the president's vision as trickle down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> overnight polls and "the denver post" give round one to romney. as a republican challenger went after the president's record. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, and economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spent his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> the president faulted romney for being too vague. >> at some point, i think the american people have to ask themselves, is the reason that governor romney is keeping all of these plans to replace secret because they're too good? is it because that somehow middle class families are going to benefit too much from them? no. >> the sharpest exchanges over taxes and deficits. >> he is saying that he is going to pay for by closing loopholes and deductions. the problem that is he's been asked over a hundred times how you would close those deductions and loopholes, and h
i saw the president's vision as trickle down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> overnight polls and "the denver post" give round one to romney. as a republican challenger went after the president's record. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, and economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spent his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care...
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americans, we get the government we deserve. it's been six days since mitt romney stood on that stage with president obama and lied for 90 minutes. and currently, polling shows more americans believe him. here's the famous sound byte for you again. >> there's an old saying in tennessee that says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> that sound byte has a different meaning to me now. i hope it does to you as well. this is mitt romney's america. the rich get richer at the expense of the middle class and the poor in this country. older americans are on their own when it comes to health care. poor americans are at the mercy of the right-wing governors who want to go after the health care funds.
americans, we get the government we deserve. it's been six days since mitt romney stood on that stage with president obama and lied for 90 minutes. and currently, polling shows more americans believe him. here's the famous sound byte for you again. >> there's an old saying in tennessee that says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> that sound byte has a different meaning to me now. i hope it does to you as well. this is mitt romney's america. the rich get richer...
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trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. and trickle-down government. >> nine times, seven minutes. the term trickle-down government is nonsensical. literally. it has no meaning apart from the way it is being used politically. and its political use is to make the classic and i always thought vaguely emasculating and grossout accusation of trickle-down economics seem less understandable. make that seem less like an understandable critique of an economic plan and more like campaign mumbo jumbo you hear from both sides. it has been used to criticize economic plans that rely on supposedly magical economic effect of giving money to rich people. rich people doing better is supposed to trickle down to non rich people somehow. that is the core of mr. romney's economic ideology and economic plan. so i think they have coined this other competing trickle down term so the insult of trickle-down economics starts to just sound confusing and meaningless. trickle-down government, trickle-dow
trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. and trickle-down government. >> nine times, seven minutes. the term trickle-down government is nonsensical. literally. it has no meaning apart from the way it is being used politically. and its political use is to make the classic and i always thought vaguely emasculating and grossout accusation of trickle-down economics seem less...
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there's a difference between talking in more moderate ways and pledging to govern as a moderate. the mitt we saw last week in that debate was certainly working double time to etch-a-sketch away some of his positions. take a look. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. well, the current rates less 20%, so the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. regulation is essentially. this president has enacted job-killing regulations. i will eliminate them. what we did in massachusetts is a model for the nation. >> did you say on camera and other places that at times you thought it would be a model for the nation. >> you're wrong, brad. >> no, no, there's tape -- >> no, the tape out there -- continue to read the tape and the tape goes on to say for each state to be able to look at it. >> okay. but don't be fooled by romney's new language, of course. if the president wants to hold onto his job, he better make the american people understand that the so-called moderate mitt is just a mirage for the occasion. does he have it in him to do it? ron reagan is an
there's a difference between talking in more moderate ways and pledging to govern as a moderate. the mitt we saw last week in that debate was certainly working double time to etch-a-sketch away some of his positions. take a look. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. well, the current rates less 20%, so the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. regulation is essentially. this president has enacted job-killing regulations. i will eliminate them. what...
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he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices the american public. in
he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't...
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they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are seeing is the president's ability to hold women. he is doing well among single women. quinnipiac did a poll earlier where the overall margin was in the same situation. single women were backing mr. obama 2-1. >> the numbers you would think would be daunting. more people think they are worse off four years ago than they were today. the president maintains his lead overall. you would think that would help mitt romney. >> you would think it is. it probably does to an extent. one of the problems mr. romney has is that voters just don't like him very much. we asked voters if they have a favorable, unfavorable of the president. they have a net unfavorable of the president and unfavorable for mitt romney. >> polls
they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are seeing is the president's ability to hold women. he is doing well among single women. quinnipiac did a poll earlier where the overall margin was in the same situation. single...
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>> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know what mitt romney's policy is on cancer. she relies on social security and medicare. she's not a lazy person. she worked and it's dependent for them to provide car care. i want to know what his policy is. >> we're curious about israel, how the relations are going to happen. >> regardless, we have obama or romney. >> thank you. let's go down here. do you have any questions? >> i have a question for romney. >> sure. >> i want to know where is the evidence that tickle down works. >> what? >> how does trickle down work? show me the evidence. >> how does cutting the taxes for the rich help everybody else? thank you. we'll be right back with more "hardball" for tonight and the debate. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new
>> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know what mitt romney's policy is on cancer. she relies on social security and medicare. she's not a lazy person. she worked and it's dependent for them to provide car care. i...
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to the extent the government is the enemy. so, when we talk about small business trying to provide reassurance. it's what president obama is trying to do. we want to be your partner. when they talk small business, they are pegging us as the one who is the enemy. >> j.j., do you agree with what he said? you spend all your time talking to small business owners. the category is so murky. i watch your show and i have a retail shop and seven employees. >> access to capital is an issue. i don't find it as the biggest issue. i think the nifb does say this. in my expeernls i agree with it. a lot of people aren't going out trying to get loans because they are not sure they can pay them back. sba increased the number of loans but there are a lot of issues with banks being able to issue loans to small businesses. that's the issue. >> sba doesn't give money, it just guarantees loans. you have to go to the local bank to qualify. there are a ton of business owners as you know, who don't have the collateral or good credit to get a bank loan
to the extent the government is the enemy. so, when we talk about small business trying to provide reassurance. it's what president obama is trying to do. we want to be your partner. when they talk small business, they are pegging us as the one who is the enemy. >> j.j., do you agree with what he said? you spend all your time talking to small business owners. the category is so murky. i watch your show and i have a retail shop and seven employees. >> access to capital is an issue. i...
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and they want smaller government and they want -- a government that is really going to help -- not help them necessarily but really be there to guide them along. so they will have -- hand out as they were telling me. these women are anomalies. 80% of african-american women voted for president obama in 2008. i don't think that's going to change very much. 1%, less than 1%, of african-americans, favor romney. so these women are anomalies but with everybody they have the right to have their own opinion. and who they are going to vote for. >> so people have an informed opinion as well. >> absolutely good get people involved in the process. we are seeing a big push in ohio for mitt romney as well as president obama. we know that no republican has ever taken the white house without taking ohio. "the new york times" article that they have out also talks about african-american voting battleground states like north carolina. which president obama won by just 14,000 votes in '08. certainly could be a key in this re-election. article also notes the presidential election got 100% of african-america
and they want smaller government and they want -- a government that is really going to help -- not help them necessarily but really be there to guide them along. so they will have -- hand out as they were telling me. these women are anomalies. 80% of african-american women voted for president obama in 2008. i don't think that's going to change very much. 1%, less than 1%, of african-americans, favor romney. so these women are anomalies but with everybody they have the right to have their own...
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the national government has had to protect a lot of citizens against states' rights and for him to go unchallenged on that war was unthinkable. thanks for your time tonight. >>> a criminal probe launched against republicans committing voter fraud. big story. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing a stunning work of technology -- the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> finally tonight, a criminal investigation is under way in florida. the florida department of law enforcement is probing a republican voter registration firm that was hired by the republican national committee. we reported about strategic allied consulting. the firm's accused of registering dead people as gop voters on submitting renlg strakss with fake addresses, and of having similar looking signatures on voter forms. the firm's run by my than sproel. in the past, he's been investigated for tricking democrats in to registering for republicans, secretly reregistering democrats as republicans and shredding democr
the national government has had to protect a lot of citizens against states' rights and for him to go unchallenged on that war was unthinkable. thanks for your time tonight. >>> a criminal probe launched against republicans committing voter fraud. big story. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing a stunning work of technology -- the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>>...
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trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. >> that trickle down government phrase looks like an attempt to neutralize attacks on his tax plan as just one more version of, quote, trickle down economics. romney did some major cleanup work yesterday on the comment that had been the most damaging to his campaign in the last few weeks, the 47% comment. >> clearly, in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you'll say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that is just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about a hundred percent. >> that's what he said. everything he said there he said was completely wrong. does raise this question. how many resets can a presidential nominee have? take a look at romney's shifting responses over the last three weeks on 47% to put it all in perspective. >> as i point out i recognize that amon
trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. trickle down government. >> that trickle down government phrase looks like an attempt to neutralize attacks on his tax plan as just one more version of, quote, trickle down economics. romney did some major cleanup work yesterday on the comment that had been the most damaging to his campaign in the last few weeks, the 47% comment. >> clearly, in a campaign with hundreds if not...
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they want to cut taxes and they want to smother government, and i think that a normal country needs government. it needs government for a decent education, for job skills, for infrastructure, for environment, for climate. a lot of other americans do also. they don't really see what's coming necessarily because now it's being aggressively disgu e disguised, but i think it's very dangerous. >> in your book "civilization" you talk about the fact that cultures and civil gations are not simply about figures, about math. they're about things like compassion and human respect for other humans who may be in need. these two don't regard that, they don't even mention those kind of issues. >> if you look at what ryan over the years has proposed, he said let's balance the budget by cutting right at the knees the poorest people in our country, going after medicaid, going after the income support for the most vulnerable people in our country. now, those people don't necessarily vote. they have no voice in the political campaigns, they're not heard, but the callousness of this is really disgusting actually,
they want to cut taxes and they want to smother government, and i think that a normal country needs government. it needs government for a decent education, for job skills, for infrastructure, for environment, for climate. a lot of other americans do also. they don't really see what's coming necessarily because now it's being aggressively disgu e disguised, but i think it's very dangerous. >> in your book "civilization" you talk about the fact that cultures and civil gations are...
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mitt romney wants the government to rule against it it. he wants to regulate people's lives. president obama wants the states to decide on same-sex marriage. romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto industry, mitt romney said to lett
mitt romney wants the government to rule against it it. he wants to regulate people's lives. president obama wants the states to decide on same-sex marriage. romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto industry, mitt romney said to lett
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we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. today, our commitment to the gulf, and to america, has never been stronger. >>> hey, there. here's what is happening. the maker of the anti-islam film was in court earlier and committee denied lying to probation officers and using aliases. the u.s. anti--doping agency accuses lance armstrong of using performance enhancing drugs. and alex karras died at the age of 77. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." well, there was some politically charged moments today on capitol hill as darrell issa looked into the attack in benghaz
we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp....
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it will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing and one on the state of government. the role of government, i should say. now, both candidates will be standing at podiums. no strict time limits. each candidate will have two minutes to answer that question and then the rest of the segment will be an open discussion about the topic at hand. so that is how the debate is going to do. aides with the obama campaign say his goal is to deliver his message in a crisp and clear manner. to not seem too long winded as sometimes he has in the past. so that's really his goal and also to make the case about why he thinks he can do a better job in these next four year of turning the economy around and to really give people specifics. as i said, the first lady will be there tonight. it is their 20th anniversary. no time to really celebrate tonight. they say they will do that this weekend. >> quite a way to celebrate. thanks so much. we head tout peter alexander in denver, where mitt romney has been for several days now prepping for the debate this evening. >> you had plenty of sport
it will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing and one on the state of government. the role of government, i should say. now, both candidates will be standing at podiums. no strict time limits. each candidate will have two minutes to answer that question and then the rest of the segment will be an open discussion about the topic at hand. so that is how the debate is going to do. aides with the obama campaign say his goal is to deliver his message in a crisp and clear...
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is a money pit in which the -- some very, very wealthy people have -- billionaires trying to buy a government. first time in history seeing the full flower of the supreme court decision in citizens united. it's disgusting and this country can't continue down this road. we have to find a way to fix that and repair the damage done by the citizens united decision from the supreme court. >> when we do the postmortem, david, do you think we'll say that ads made a difference, super-pac money made the difference? >> money is a resource and not an outcome. it's what you say and do with it. races of candidates with a ton of money and nothing to say with the money and so i think that ultimately campaigns have got to figure out what's the compelling reason that the candidate should be elected. the amount of money is a result of the campaign reform bill and the associated decisions after that. you have a situation where i would suggest that candidate voice has been diminished of super-pacs. you hear more from the super-pacs than the candidates themselves. >> one of the things that both of these candidate
is a money pit in which the -- some very, very wealthy people have -- billionaires trying to buy a government. first time in history seeing the full flower of the supreme court decision in citizens united. it's disgusting and this country can't continue down this road. we have to find a way to fix that and repair the damage done by the citizens united decision from the supreme court. >> when we do the postmortem, david, do you think we'll say that ads made a difference, super-pac money...
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government at the location is a part of that investigation now. tamron? >> let' play another excerpt. earlier some of the comments made. let's play them. >> the second bombing was an improvised explosive device placed on the north gate breaching the wall. it was a test by terrorists and it was successful. and we didn't respond fully and adequately. we didn't acknowledge it. we didn't talk about it. we pretended it didn't happen. it was a terrorist attack on a u.s. asset in libya. and it was never exposed. we pretended it didn't happen. well guess what. the third time the terrorists came to attack us, they were -- even more successful. killing four americans. >> of course, the congressman referring to two previous bombings at that consulate in benghazi. kelly, i don't know if you have the answer to this, but it's obviously been brought up. the state department changing the details right before this hearing. do we know if that was to get, i guess, its version out before some of the harsher questions are asked or new information even down 0 the lieutenant co
government at the location is a part of that investigation now. tamron? >> let' play another excerpt. earlier some of the comments made. let's play them. >> the second bombing was an improvised explosive device placed on the north gate breaching the wall. it was a test by terrorists and it was successful. and we didn't respond fully and adequately. we didn't acknowledge it. we didn't talk about it. we pretended it didn't happen. it was a terrorist attack on a u.s. asset in libya....
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today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> ryan's comment were part of the keynote address at a gala dinner hosted by the american spectator. that was in november 201, ten months ago, well before he was considered to be a vice presidential running mate. >>> a pennsylvania judge will let voters go to the polls without photo i.d., upholding a controversial state law that requires identification but stopping it from taking effect until after elections. voters in pennsylvania will be asked for i.d. but will still be able to vote if they don't have it. democrats are touting the ruling as a win for minority and low-income vot
today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish...
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here's ryan talking about people who rely on government assistance. here it is. >> before too long, we would become a society we were never intended to be. we could become a society where americans are takers and not makers, 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> doesn't had this show the american people what romney and ryan think about struggling americans? >> absolutely. my favorite thing is mitt romney said it was inelegantly stated when he said about the 47%. i hope that mitt romney e gets a chance to elegantly state what he said about the 47% of the american people not caring enough to take responsibility for their own situations in life. and i think, you know, what that crystallized for people, ed, is what they suspected about governor romney and paul ryan all along. and that is they don't really care about the middle class in this country. they are not really concerned about and they certainly don't understand what it's like to work hard and try to get ahead in the countr
here's ryan talking about people who rely on government assistance. here it is. >> before too long, we would become a society we were never intended to be. we could become a society where americans are takers and not makers, 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> doesn't had this show the american people what romney and ryan think about struggling americans? >> absolutely. my favorite thing is mitt...
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see, the real internet is very dissatisfying to the government of iran. there is all sorts of stuff on the internet the iranian mullahs do not like so they've been busy closing off bits of internet to the iranian public. you can't use google. now you can't use youtube. you can't use specific sites where the government doesn't like what you can read there or what you can see there. they've been doing that forever. kind of playing "whack a mole" with the internet. iran's government is apparently getting tired of managing the increasingly complex patchwork of things they want to block the people in their country from seeing online and so instead they have a genius idea. they are suggesting they may just close off access to the real internet all together and instead build themselves their own internal government approved internet. just for their own country. so it's not really an internet. it is more like an iran-ternet. they will build their own. separate but equal. ridiculous right? but you can understand that sort of controlling dictatorial impulse here th
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and that people even like what government is doing until the single-digit approval numbers for all of congress so they will support the anti-government party and perpetuating the pain that americans feel in this recession so they will throw out obama. it is not a bipartisan problem. it's an asymmetrical problem and historic. it's shocking it's not a national scandal that one party said we will put party aahead of country and inflict pain on america to have electoral success. >> do you think if republicans vote to raise taxes, governor norquist's head will explode? >> yes. the threat of that kind of primary challenge from that part of the party kept it for 22 years. amazing. >> before we go, one of us was bestowed a huge honor this weekend. a p aaody of s.e. cupp made it into an "snl" kick. >> i'm rachel maddow. we try to pick up the pieces and make sense of barack obama's perform in wednesday's debate. as we call it on msnbc, the worst thing ever happened anywhere. joining me toint is the reverend al sharpton. >> i'm never forget where i was the night of that debate. i was here. >> ot
and that people even like what government is doing until the single-digit approval numbers for all of congress so they will support the anti-government party and perpetuating the pain that americans feel in this recession so they will throw out obama. it is not a bipartisan problem. it's an asymmetrical problem and historic. it's shocking it's not a national scandal that one party said we will put party aahead of country and inflict pain on america to have electoral success. >> do you...
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and as you heard chairman issa say, there is apparently videotape the government has that shows that it was very calm there about an hour before the -- sort of the melee began. a lot of frustration about that. still a sense they're not getting all the answers they want. some of that is because there's an ongoing investigation, in fact, three of them. the people from the state department who were there to give testimony had some concern about stepping on the investigation. so, that's part of it. the other part is a real inquiry about what should the level of security be because two of the men who were at the witness table had been a part of security in libya, claimed they had made requests for additional support on the ground, based on things they were seeing there and that that had been denied. now it's a question of, were the right decisions made about the level of security needed? of course, after something this deadly, that makes the decisions made earlier look like there were problems. and the state department official who made the decision still believes they had the right numbe
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you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in terms of policy specifics, the $17,000 bucket, et cetera, is there concern that these are enough of a distraction to turn the dynamics of the debate away from a more aggressive posture that the president might take vis-a-vis mitt romney's obfuscation. >> the american people will be tuning in for specifics tonight. they know mitt romney can ably attack the president.
you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw...
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we can check tout government website. safecar.gov to learn whether or not your vehicle model is among those affected. no injuries tide to these bags. government investigators believe many of these bags have come from china. >> mandy drury, thank you. >>> neiman marcus is out with its annual holiday catalog and have some, as usual, outrageous gifts with even more outrageous price tags. how about a jet pack for $100,000? red special edition of clarins spider, 350 grand. for a mere 350,000, this hen house, hen house, yes, inspire ed, annie the musical. a pair of his and hers watches. you get a romantic trip to paris and geneva. but it will set you back more than a million dollars. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything.
we can check tout government website. safecar.gov to learn whether or not your vehicle model is among those affected. no injuries tide to these bags. government investigators believe many of these bags have come from china. >> mandy drury, thank you. >>> neiman marcus is out with its annual holiday catalog and have some, as usual, outrageous gifts with even more outrageous price tags. how about a jet pack for $100,000? red special edition of clarins spider, 350 grand. for a mere...
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we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions, tons of assumptions, and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the election, the numbers go one tenth of a point below where they were when the president started, although i don't see anything in the economy that says these surges are true. the 873,000 jobs in the household survey is the strongest economy since 1983. i don't think you can find an economist, there were 25 of them this morning that predicted 8.1% to 8.2%, but they did predict 114,000 jobs. we got 114,000 jobs, and somehow the assumptions ended up at 7.8%. >> well, let me get back to your tweet this morning. it must be embarrassing for you to do a tweet now after the power you used to have. i mean, tweeting doesn't seem like something i'd hear from jack welch, and i mean it. here you put out the word, unbelievable j
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. >> the ryan budget if passed that the govern ore said he endorsed would knock 19 million people off of medicaid. >> romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children by an additional $2,000 a year. >> don't tell me what you value. show me your budget and i'll tell you what the value. >>> vice president biden will have some serious things to say this thursday. joining me is steve carnaci, co-host of "the cycle. he's writing in "salon" today about paul ryan's thing skin. thanks for coming on the show. >> thanks for having me. is he ready for joe biden? >> it's an open question. one thing we found is he hasn't been ready forred kind of scrutiny that comes with a national spot light. there have been several interviews, in what we all assumed would be friendly turf fox news where at the slightest bit of scrutiny on follow-up questions he's gotten very testy and evasive. you can think of early on back in august in an interview, how long it would take mitt romney's budget to be balance. he said i don't want to be all wonky on you, but i don't
. >> the ryan budget if passed that the govern ore said he endorsed would knock 19 million people off of medicaid. >> romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children by an additional $2,000 a year. >> don't tell me what you value. show me your budget and i'll tell you what the value. >>> vice president biden will have some serious things to say this thursday. joining me is steve carnaci, co-host of "the cycle....
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we are corroding trust in our government in a way. one time responsible people are doing to control it. the idea that donald trump and jack welch, rich people with crazy conspiracies can get traction on this. >> ari, i want to talk first about this. we talked about institutional failure. what's happening now is the airing of conspiracy theories as fact. whether or not you choose to believe them. i think it undermined the notion that there even is such a thing as a fact anymore. that was incredibly bold of fox to go forward with the notion that chicago has manipulated the numbers from the bls. there is no questioning on this. >> you see the difference. rush limbaugh was trafficking in conspiracy ideas to lead his audience to the conclusion where sean hannidy got up there and lied. there has always been public discourse. one is the bias where people only listen to what confirms their beliefs. the second is what you would call the big shot bubble which was a big piece and slate talked about this. powerful people with big mega phones who
we are corroding trust in our government in a way. one time responsible people are doing to control it. the idea that donald trump and jack welch, rich people with crazy conspiracies can get traction on this. >> ari, i want to talk first about this. we talked about institutional failure. what's happening now is the airing of conspiracy theories as fact. whether or not you choose to believe them. i think it undermined the notion that there even is such a thing as a fact anymore. that was...
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and less government. he goes on to write, obama care will raise the company's health insurance costs by 2%. as employees, you will receive no additional direct benefit other than you will have to pay for it. lax also warns that any additional tax increase discussed by the administration would come out of the employee pay. it is always important to remember the more the government takes the less there will be available to spread around to the working people of this company. now here's the the kicker in all of this. lax enterprises makes automobile parts and business is pretty good. in fact, the letter also notified employees of their sixth bonus in almost three years. what happened about three years ago? wasn't there something going on with the automobile industry like a loan put out? but the company tries to claim their auto-related business did not benefit from the obama administration's auto loan. he writes, we survived because our business model and the money we have in the bank to survive these downtu
and less government. he goes on to write, obama care will raise the company's health insurance costs by 2%. as employees, you will receive no additional direct benefit other than you will have to pay for it. lax also warns that any additional tax increase discussed by the administration would come out of the employee pay. it is always important to remember the more the government takes the less there will be available to spread around to the working people of this company. now here's the the...
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government, like a.i.d. all of whom significant commitments to addressing the huge problem and one of the biggest antidotes we know to keep a girl in school because if she stays in school and gets an education, there will be less opportunity for her to find herself in the circumstances of so many other girls. so huge commitments today to keep girls in school and help them transition to secondary school. >> thank you so much for what you're doing. thank you for being here. >> thank you, andrea. >> an important giday. we'll be right back. campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. alka-seltzer plus cold & cough may cause marked drowsiness. try dayquil cold & flu for non-drowsy relief of these symptoms. so you can save the day, not worry about falling asleep. >>> back with us for a quick farewell. chris, we are talking about the vice presidential debate. i'll be heading there tonight. this other quick note is romney adviser tel
government, like a.i.d. all of whom significant commitments to addressing the huge problem and one of the biggest antidotes we know to keep a girl in school because if she stays in school and gets an education, there will be less opportunity for her to find herself in the circumstances of so many other girls. so huge commitments today to keep girls in school and help them transition to secondary school. >> thank you so much for what you're doing. thank you for being here. >> thank...
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we don't think the government should be in control of all of this. we want people to be in control. now, i'll just simply say this and i respectfully disagree with the vice president about what the american people are or aren't saying or qualified the speak on their behalf. >> you have an opinion. >> so we'll all representatives of the american people and do town hall meetings. we all talk and are engaged. >> all right. there's paul ryan. one other note on this. we have not seen an age gap this stark of two candidates in a national debate since 1988. lloyd benson and dan quayle. we all know how that went. not an oman but anyway. all talk today is focused on mitt romney's surge after last week's presidential debate. today, romney had a one-point lead in the real clear politics poll and pundits throwing suggestions in the ring of what president obama needs to do next week at the debate. here's a view of the past and the future. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i saw -- i thought, wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i
we don't think the government should be in control of all of this. we want people to be in control. now, i'll just simply say this and i respectfully disagree with the vice president about what the american people are or aren't saying or qualified the speak on their behalf. >> you have an opinion. >> so we'll all representatives of the american people and do town hall meetings. we all talk and are engaged. >> all right. there's paul ryan. one other note on this. we have not...
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the royalties alone are worth $750 billion a year to the federal government. fourth, look carefully at what romney said, that the true supply sides don't necessarily love but it's good politics. he said i will close enough deductions that wealthy americans will not get a net tax cut. now, that's a pretty clear description. >> let me just say this. standing on the stage with you in arizona, this is what mitt romney said. number one, i said today we're going to cut taxes on everyone across the country, by 20%, including the top 1%. mr. speaker, you mentioned that your opponent, mitt romney, had a problem with being dishonest in the primary. my question is, was he dishonest when he said that? >> i think it's clear he changed. >> we don't disagree that he changed. >> let me do this. i want to get a break in. there's several different directions we're going to keep going talking about the economy and the aftermath of the debate. and we want to look forward to the next debate, which is biden and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look
the royalties alone are worth $750 billion a year to the federal government. fourth, look carefully at what romney said, that the true supply sides don't necessarily love but it's good politics. he said i will close enough deductions that wealthy americans will not get a net tax cut. now, that's a pretty clear description. >> let me just say this. standing on the stage with you in arizona, this is what mitt romney said. number one, i said today we're going to cut taxes on everyone across...
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is not most of what government does, from agriculture subsidies to subsidized student loans to entitlements, the restriction of well the from one cohort or region to another? thank you george will. steve, i've been trying to explain that to mitt romney that every form of taxation is restriction. i, too, would love to hear him called on that one. >> yeah. if we're talking about the whole restriction in this debate tomorrow night, i think it's a symptom of a broader problem for mitt romney and that is we're basically talking about the stuff that he's been talking about to appeal to the republican base. the idea that obama is a restrictioni restrictionist, this is something that has emerged within the base of the republican party that animates them but we have seen that for four years. that image of obama does not have resonance with the swing voters. so romney has been pitching that to the base and he continues to talk about it and his campaign continues to put it out there. if you're talking about that in the debate you're not winning over swing voters and that's not romney's challenge at th
is not most of what government does, from agriculture subsidies to subsidized student loans to entitlements, the restriction of well the from one cohort or region to another? thank you george will. steve, i've been trying to explain that to mitt romney that every form of taxation is restriction. i, too, would love to hear him called on that one. >> yeah. if we're talking about the whole restriction in this debate tomorrow night, i think it's a symptom of a broader problem for mitt romney...
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government did this with libya. basically arming the opposition. and you know, your men ri's men ri is only my friend for so long. is that a wise approach? >> no. i have spent time on this issue. there's no doubt providing nonlethal communication support is extraordinary important and secretary clinton announced massive amount of humanitarian assistance and ku dos to the administration for doing that. the real problem here is that there's this struggle within the romney campaign itself over syria between neo-conservatives to militarily intervene and those who actually are more reticent and the problem is that mr. romney flip flops between one group and the other and can't quite decide which one is more important. the bottom line, however, for purposes of american interest in the middle east, arming a rag tag group of rebels at this point in time is inconsistent with understanding when's going to emerge of syria in the long run. one of the reasons why i'm reticent is because we don't really know who the rebels are. some of them are affiliates of al
government did this with libya. basically arming the opposition. and you know, your men ri's men ri is only my friend for so long. is that a wise approach? >> no. i have spent time on this issue. there's no doubt providing nonlethal communication support is extraordinary important and secretary clinton announced massive amount of humanitarian assistance and ku dos to the administration for doing that. the real problem here is that there's this struggle within the romney campaign itself...